This podcast comes from Wilderness Podcast,
a series devoted to wild places; it's hosted by Adam Bronstein, Idaho Director of Western Watersheds Project (WWP).
WWP has been fighting to remove livestock from public lands for nearly three decades. The podcast is an interview with Jon Marvel, the founder of WWP who retired in 2014.
https://wildernesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/515935/5195527-public-lands-grazing-death-destruction-jon-marvel-western-watersheds-project-ep-038
https://wildernesspodcast.buzzsprout.com/515935/5195527-public-lands-grazing-death-destruction-jon-marvel-western-watersheds-project-ep-038
